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Applying conversation analysis to classroom

interactions: students’ ‘oh’

-prefaced utterances

and the interactional management of

explanations

Myrte N. Gosen, Annerose Willemsen & Frans Hiddink

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Applying conversation analysis to classroom interactions:

students’ ‘oh’-prefaced utterances and the interactional

management of explanations

Myrte N. Gosen a

, Annerose Willemsenb and Frans Hiddinkc

aCenter for Language and Cognition Groningen, University of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands;

bDepartment of Behavioural Sciences and Learning, Linköping University, Linkoping, Sweden;

cMultilingualism and Literacy, NHL Stenden University of Applied Science, Leeuwarden, The Netherlands

ABSTRACT

This study serves as an example of Conversation Analytic (CA)

research with a focus on the interactional management of learning

in classroom interactions, while simultaneously illustrating the several

steps and procedures used for conducting these analyses. In

this case, the method of CA is used to study students’ ‘oh’-prefaced

utterances in one-to-one classroom interactions centred around

explanations. The interactions are studied from the participants’

perspective by means of a turn-by-turn analysis of the selected

fragments on the basis of video recordings and detailed transcripts,

as is common practice in CA. This study aligns with previous CA

research focusing on the details of classroom interaction relating to

students’ learning processes. The results of the close analysis of the

data provide insight into the orientation teachers and students

show to interactionally exhibited knowledge displays in relation

to the entire explanation activity they are involved in. This detailed

analysis of one-to-one explanation interactions in secondary school

classrooms provides insight into students’ learning processes as

well as into the accompanying teacher practices.

ARTICLE HISTORY

Received 26 July 2023

Accepted 21 August 2024

KEYWORDS

Conversation analysis;

classroom interaction;

knowledge displays;

learning; explanations

  1. Introduction

This contribution showcases Conversation Analysis (CA) (Sidnell and Stivers 2013) as

a qualitative method for studying educational interactions. The general enterprise of CA

is to uncover how interactants accomplish their conversations as social projects.

Conversation analysts are generally interested in how participants make observable to

each other how they understand each other’s utterances (Heritage 1984b; Sacks,

Schegloff, and Jefferson 1974). This means, conversation analysts are only interested in

knowledge of interactants once this knowledge is interactionally exhibited (Heritage

2013). From this perspective, learning might only be observed in interaction by tracking

changes in the interactionally exhibited knowledge (Melander 2012).

CONTACT Myrte N. Gosen m.n.gosen@rug.nl Center for Language and Cognition Groningen, University of

Groningen, Oude Kijk in ‘t Jatstraat 26, Groningen 9712 EK, The Netherlands

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In this paper, we illustrate the data-driven method of CA and its affordances by

examining the phenomenon of students’ ‘Oh’-prefaced utterances in classroom interactions.

‘Oh’ is described as a change-of-state token (Heritage 1984a) claiming a change in

understanding (Sacks and Jefferson 1992). This token is found to be used in response to

a previous action to express that something is heard as relevant, new or remembered

(Bolden 2006; Sacks and Jefferson 1992; Seuren, Huiskes, and Koole 2016).

We will show how analysing secondary school students’ ‘oh’-prefaced utterances

during explanation interactions with their teacher provides insight into students’ learning

processes as well as in teachers’ interactional conduct to facilitate learning (e.g. Koole

2015; Willemsen 2019). We moreover guide the reader through the different methodological

steps and decisions relevant for CA research: from recording data with a general

research interest (e.g. a specific task or learning outcome), via detailed transcription

enabling turn-by-turn analysis and the bottom-up discovery of recurring patterns, to

our presentation of the results in a conversation analytic publication.

  1. Conversation analysis in education

Originating from ethnomethodological theory (Garfinkel 1967), CA was established in the

1960s and 1970s by amongst others Sacks and Jefferson (1992) to uncover the organisation

of interaction. Presently, straightforward, but revolutionary in those days, was Sacks’s

idea to record authentic interactional data. To this day, the preservation and the analysis

of authentic data are still among CA’s crucial features. Collected data are not elicited (but

see Sert, Gynne and Larsson’s 2024) Discursive Timeline Analysis for a combination of CA

and other discourse data), recollected on the basis of memory, or derived from an

experimental setting, but instead recorded while naturally occurring.

By means of the detailed method of CA, researchers create a clearer picture of common

interactional constellations in education, such as whole-class interactions, peer interactions

and one-to-one teacher–student interactions. One often starts with a general

research interest into a specific activity that can be considered to be the main reason to

collect recorded data. Once these data are collected, CA researchers take a data driven

approach. By repeatedly looking at the data, they arrive at more specific research interests

that can be studied in detail using transcripts of the interaction.

The recordings and accompanying transcripts enable the researchers to repeatedly

analyse the interaction as it unfolded in real-life. The recordings are therefore transcribed

in great detail including among others hesitations, pauses and overlaps (see for instance

Jefferson 2004). Multimodal transcripts furthermore include eye gaze, gestures, body

posture, etc. (see Mondada 2016). The transcripts however can never replace the original

recordings, but are an aid to put the recorded conversations on hold for analysis.

Questions initiating the detailed analyses on the basis of the recordings and transcripts

might for instance be: ‘How do teachers encourage student contributions in whole-class

discussions?’, ‘How do peers “reason together” during inquiry learning?’ or ‘What do

teachers’ explanations to individual students look like?’. These questions lead to

a subsequent close investigation resulting from the initial exploration of the data. The

initial question of how teachers encourage student contributions in whole-class discussions

for instance resulted in a study on teachers’ open invitations to their students

(Willemsen et al. 2018); the second question on peers reasoning together led to a study

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on how young children accomplish account sequences in problem-solving interactions

(Hiddink 2019).

When moving from a more general research interest to a particular interactional

practice, we thus move into the study of the details of interaction that enable us as

researchers to investigate how a particular interactional constellation is locally managed

from moment to moment in real time. While doing so, we focus on practices and actions

by teachers and learners in relation to each other. Herewith, we get a better picture of the

learning processes as they become apparent in interaction as well as of the teacher’s

conduct facilitating learning. It is precisely this detailed analysis that enables us to get

closer insights into the overarching educational interaction. At the same time, this type of

analysis comes close to educational practice as it is experienced by teachers and students

while participating. This illustrates the ‘emic’ perspective of CA: the analyst works with

what becomes observable in interaction, for the participants themselves as well as for the

researchers as analysing ‘overhearers’.

  1. Interactional organisation in education

A main driveway to study what becomes observable in interaction is described in the CA

literature as the next-turn proof procedure. By responding to a previous utterance,

a recipient displays how aspects of a prior turn were understood (Heritage 1984b).

Already by providing an answer, a recipient for instance indicates that the prior turn

was understood as a request for information. Schegloff (2007) uses the term ‘sequence

organization’ to refer to the fact that turns at talk are often organised in adjacent pairs

forming a coherent and orderly ‘sequence’ of actions (Schegloff 2007, 2) such as a request

for information and an answer. A particular action that is launched as a First Pair Part (FPP)

expects a fitting Second Pair Part (SPP). For instance, the request for information as an FPP

projects an answer providing the information as an SPP. This pair is furthermore often

followed by a third part in which the first speaker accepts the new information.

Concerning the organisation of one-to-one interactions between a teacher and one, or

sometimes two, student(s), previous research has focused on the interactional organisation

of these interactions in general (e.g. Breukelman et al. 2023) as well as on this

organisation in relation to more explicit displays of knowledge (Koole 2010, 2012).

These one-to-one interactions are regularly organised as assistance to the student(s)

completing individual exercises. Individual seatwork often follows whole-classroom

instructions by the teacher. When a student then runs into a problem completing an

exercise individually, the teacher may provide assistance in solving the problem. These

interactions are often initiated by a student’s request for assistance, followed by different

types of responses by the teachers in second sequential position (Breukelman et al. 2023).

The teacher responses are generally found to be either organised as discourse units

(Houtkoop and Mazeland 1985) i.e. longer turns explaining what to do next, or as the

launching of several sequences of questions and answers gradually leading students to an

understanding of how to proceed (Koole 2010). In general, these one-to-one interactions

are described in the literature as ‘explanation interactions’ (e.g. Breukelman et al. 2023;

Koole 2010, 2012).

As the starting point for these interactions concerns assistance-seeking in which ‘the

person producing the request for assistance is positioned as unknowing and the

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presumptive helper as knowing’ (Svahn and Melander Bowden 2021, 196), these interactions

are also studied from the perspective of learning, by focusing on aspects of knowing

and understanding. Displays of epistemic stances, for instance, are studied in relation to

these interactions (for example, Koole 2010, 2012). Within CA, ‘research into epistemics

focuses on the knowledge claims that interactants assert, contest and defend in and

through turns-at-talk and sequences of interaction’ (Heritage 2013, 370). Learning in this

sense is considered socially distributed (e.g. Markee and Kunitz 2013) and can only be

traced in interaction by tracking changes in the interactionally exhibited knowledge

claims (Melander 2012).

The particular interactional display of change in understanding (Sacks and Jefferson

1992) in the form ‘oh’ as a change-of-state-token has been elaborately described. This

token has been found to show a change in understanding in response to a previous action

(Heritage 1984a; Jefferson 1978; Schiffrin 1987). In several languages (e.g. English, Dutch)

it is found that interactants can use ‘oh’ to express that something is heard as relevant,

new or remembered (Bolden 2006; Sacks and Jefferson 1992; Seuren, Huiskes, and Koole

2016). The ‘“oh” is used to mark the receipt of the informing delivered in the preceding

turn or turns’ [italics in original] (Heritage 1984a, 301). Sacks and Jefferson (1992) already

distinguished between two modes of displaying change; claims and demonstrations.

Producing just an ‘oh’ is described as a claim of understanding or recognition, while

delivering an ‘oh’ as a preface to a lengthier turn is described as a demonstration since

these turns reveal ‘some sort of analysis’ of B’s utterance and using ‘that analysis in

producing a next utterance’ (Sacks and Jefferson 1992, 253).

That the token ‘oh’ indicates a possible change enables us to come close to the

uncovering of interactants’ learning processes. In Dutch secondary classroom interaction

data, Koole (2010) already did a close analysis of displays of knowing and displays of

understanding in relation to students’ use of ‘oh’. He illustrated that different displays

occur in different sequential positions and have different functions within the overall

activity of explaining. For this paper, we follow-up on this research by focusing on ‘oh-

prefaced’ turns in particular. As the above-mentioned studies demonstrate the relevance

of the token, ‘oh’ is well suited as a focus in this paper showcasing CA as a method to

study the interactional details of learning processes. The following analysis therefore

illustrates how learning in a classroom setting can be studied from an interactional

perspective and enables us to show all the relevant steps and concepts related to CA

research in classroom interaction.

  1. Data set and object of study

For this study, data are used from a larger data set collected by Tim Mainhard, Astrid

Poorthuis and Janneke van de Pol (e.g. van Braak et al. 2021). In their project on

scaffolding in classroom interaction, they video recorded one-to-one interactions

during 150 lessons (virtually all lessons students attended in 2 weeks, ranging from

the subjects of Dutch language and literature to mathematics, taught by different

subject teachers) at four different lower secondary pre-vocational education schools

(students aged 11–13) in The Netherlands. The researchers’ aim was to get more

insight into scaffolding processes, such as teacher support and student independence,

during situations in which students worked on exercises independently. A recent

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publication for instance presented statistical analyses of coded behavioural engagement

and adaptive support in the interactions (van Braak et al. 2021). While their

quantitative findings are of great interest for classroom interaction research, one of the

researchers reached out to us as conversation analysts as she believed that CA

research could reveal deeper insights into the learning processes that became visible

in the interactions.

The data were made available to us as a large set of video recordings of individual one-

to-one interactions centred around explanations in which a teacher explains content

typically upon a student’s request for assistance to enable them to continue their work

independently. Two video cameras were installed in the classroom, teachers wore microphones,

and the students were recorded with audio recorders on their desks (one

recorder per two or four students). In line with the consent provided by teachers, students

and parents, the recordings were anonymised before our use of the data. The videos were

blurred and the voices were transformed. Sometimes, this complicated our transcribing of

the interactions, but this disadvantage was outweighed by the importance of protecting

the identities of the participants involved. The one-to-one interactions were transcribed

according to Jeffersonian conventions for verbal conduct and Mondadaian conventions

for multimodal transcription (Jefferson 2004; Mondada 2016, see Appendix).

The transcripts establish the possibility to analyse all features in the interactions.

Transcripts make it possible to ‘pause’ the interaction, where in real-time many features

come simultaneously, and at such a pace, that it is impossible to analyse them in detail.

Compared to methods of real-time observation and coding, the benefit of CA therefore is

that the transcripts enable us to dismantle all the different features of the interaction

while repeatedly looking at the data. In addition, transcripts enable us to take the

participant’s perspective by focusing on these features that are relevant on a turn-by-

turn basis for the interactants themselves. Without transcripts present for analysis, we

could only have taken note of our phenomenon to be happening and how often, without

drawing conclusions on the detailed workings of the phenomenon in the interactions.

As CA is a data-driven approach, one does not work with specific research questions

with accompanying hypotheses. As already stated in the introduction, one starts with

a general interest in a classroom activity. In this case, we adopted the overarching

project’s general interest in one-to-one explanation interactions in relation to learning

processes such as scaffolding (e.g. van de Pol and Elbers 2013; van de Pol et al. 2014, 2015;

van de Pol, Mercer, and Volman 2019). Therefore, we have worked with this data set to

gain a deeper insight into the learning processes as these become visible in these one-to-

one interactions in which a teacher explains content to a student. For this study, we have

selected the lessons on Dutch language and literature, resulting in 72 one-to-one

interactions.

While conducting observations on the basis of the (transcribed) data set, we encountered

a considerable number of ‘oh’-prefaced turns by the students. This caught our

interest because of CA’s general interest in ‘oh’ as a change-of-state-token (Heritage

1984a) and the more specific interest in displays of knowing and understanding in classroom

interactions in relation to students’ use of ‘oh’ (Koole 2010). We therefore decided to

focus on these ‘oh’-prefaced turns and attempt to find out what these turns reveal about

the learning processes and the accompanying teacher practices in these one-to-one

interactions. We then came to a more specific research question: ‘What do students do

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when deploying the practice of “oh”-prefaced utterances and how are these responded to

by teachers?’.

  1. Method

Based on the subset of 72 one-to-one interactions during Dutch language and literature

lessons, we localised all student turns that were ‘oh’-prefaced. This led to a collection of 21

explanation interactions containing at least one ‘oh’-prefaced turn by the student. As we

wanted to include as much information as possible about the learning processes of the

students, we did not include stand-alone ‘oh’s. Because of the emic perspective of CA, we

as analysts only base our analyses on what the participants make observable to each

other. The utterances following the ‘oh’ provide us with information on what exactly in

the teacher’s turn the ‘oh’ is responding to and how the ‘oh’ hence is to be interpreted in

the interaction.

Once we established this collection, we conducted an inductive analysis focusing on

the sequential position of the ‘oh’-prefaced turn in relation to the surrounding turns and

the action these turns were performing in the interaction. We noticed that in only 11 of

the fragments the students actually responded to the teacher’s explanation by means of

their ‘oh’-prefaced turn (other turns responded for example to something outside the

one-to-one interaction or to something unrelated to the explanation). The next step in our

data collection was then to focus on these 11 ‘oh’-prefaced student turns. This might

seem like a rather small collection of instances. However, for a more in-depth exploration

of the data, this can be considered sufficient in CA terms, especially since we focused on

the entire explanation interactions containing the ‘oh’-prefaced utterance and not just on

the immediately preceding and following turns surrounding this utterance. The analysis

thus provides us with an extensive image of the explanation interactions and a thorough

scrutiny of how the ‘oh’-prefaced turns functioned in the organisation of the explanation.

For each of the 11 fragments, we iteratively conducted a close sequential analysis of the

trajectory (from start to closing of the explanation interaction) and refined the transcripts

accordingly (Broth, Musk, and Persson 2020). This enabled us to draw conclusions on what

the ‘oh’-prefaced turns were doing in relation to the prior explanation as well as in relation

to the ensuing interaction.

  1. Results

While being in an explanation interaction with their teacher, students in our data set

regularly respond to the (ongoing) explanation by means of an ‘oh’-prefaced turn. As ‘oh’

is demonstrated to be a change-of-state token, this is of interest for the teacher involved.

The student signals a change, which can be considered the aim of an explanation

interaction. We will demonstrate that ‘oh’-prefaced turns may either claim or demonstrate

a change. We will also demonstrate that the teachers interactionally treat a claim as

insufficient. As we will show in our analyses, an ‘oh’-prefaced demonstration appears to be

conditional for the explanation interaction to be brought to a close. Both teacher and

students a) orient to a demonstration at the end of an explanation interaction as being

sufficient, or b) orient to a claim as insufficient by continuing the explanation interaction

with the elicitation of a demonstration, or c) orient to a claim as being sufficient in those

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cases where a demonstration has been provided earlier in the explanation interaction. As

is common in conversation analytic papers, the different patterns in the data will be

illustrated by presenting extracts that are representative for the 11 fragments analysed.

6.1. Orientation to a demonstration as being sufficient

Extract 1 shows a clear example of an ‘oh’-prefaced demonstration treated as sufficient for

closing the explanation interaction. As soon as the students in this extract demonstrate

change in an ‘oh’-prefaced turn, the teacher starts turning and walking away from their

desks.

In line 1, student 1 requests assistance by producing a request for information in

the form of a content question (Englert 2010) asking about the meaning of the

word ‘pendelen’ (shuttling or commuting) while stressing the second syllable. Using

the same pronunciation, student 2 (seated next to student 1) aligns with the

question (l. 2). In overlap with this, the teacher initiates a repair sequence addressing

the students’ pronunciation of the word by stressing the first syllable instead

of the second (l. 3). When no response is forthcoming, the teacher repeats the word

with the right pronunciation (l. 5). This time it is received by one of the students

demonstrating to now know or now remember (Seuren, Huiskes, and Koole 2016)

how to pronounce the word (l. 6) which closes the repair sequence. Then, the

teacher resumes the question-answer sequence initiated in line 1 and explains the

meaning of the word (l. 7–8) by invoking it in relation to an object that was used in

a previous explanation. It is the turns in lines 9 and 10 then that belong to our

collection of ‘oh’-prefaced turns after an explanation (line 6 of course also contains

1 STU1: wat is pendelen.=

what is shuttling

2 STU2: =ja pen[delen]

yes shuttling

3 TCH: [ pend]elen.

shuttling

4 (1.8)

5 TCH: pendelen.=

shuttling

6 STU1?: =⭡OH PENDELEN.

oh shuttling

7 TCH: PENdelen.=dat a- had ik uitgelegd gi- vorige keer.

shuttling I explained that yest- last time

8 met die over die bus:. die ergens tussendoor.=

with that about that bus that (drove) through something

9 STU1: =o[&:h de pendel&bus. ]

oh the shuttle bus

10 STU2: [&oh (de pendel&bus.)]

oh the shuttle bus

tch: &turns away—–&walks away–>>

Extract 1. The shuttle bus (B/5_int.1545DL)

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an ‘oh’-prefaced turn, but not in response to an explanation, so therefore this turn

is not included in our collection). Here, both students simultaneously demonstrate

change in response to the explanation in lines 7–8 by producing the compound

word ‘pendelbus’ (shuttle bus). The teacher turns away from the students early on

in their turns (lines 9–10) and starts walking away from their desks at the end. This

clearly shows the teacher’s orientation to the production of an ‘oh’-prefaced

demonstration as an indication of a successful explanation interaction ready to

be closed (in this case by moving away from the students, Broth and Mondada

2013).

6.2. Orientation to a claim as being insufficient

In the data, the students’ ‘oh’-prefaced turns do not always include a demonstration. In

these cases, the ‘oh’-prefaced turns are only claiming change. These claims are clearly

treated as being insufficient by the teacher, who pursues a demonstration as

a prerequisite for closing the explanation interaction. An example of this is Extract 2,

where the teacher explicitly asks for a demonstration when only a claim has been

produced by the student so far.

1 TCH: Ferry. sorry.

Ferry sorry

2 &(0.8) &(0.6)

tch: &comes to F&leans on desk–>

3 STU: een: wildwaterrivier is een soort wat.

a whitewater river is a kind of what

4 (0.3)

5 TCH: nou dat heb ik &net voorgedaan &daar.

well I just explained that there

tch: –>& &points to board–>

6 (.)

7 TCH: een huisvesting is een soort vesting,=een

a housing accommodation is a kind of accommodation

8 huisvrouw is een soort vrouw, .Hh huistelefoon is

a housewife is a kind of wife .Hh house telephone

9 een soort telefoon,

is a kind of telephone

10 (0.4)

11 TCH: een ziekenhuis is een soort hui[s. &]

a nursing home is a kind of home

12 STU: [o:h&] ja.

oh right

tch: –>&

13 (.)

14 TCH: ja?=& dus een wildwaterrivier is een soort_&

yes so a whitewater river is a kind of

tch: &leans over and points in book———&

15 STU: &°rivier.°&

river

tch: &trns away&walks away–>>

Extract 2. Whitewater river (G/17_int.1567DL)

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In this extract, the student (Ferry) initiates an explanation interaction by reading aloud an

exercise to the teacher: ‘a whitewater river is a kind of’ followed by the question word

‘what’ (l. 3). In this way, he indicates his trouble filling in the requested answer (the head of

the compound word: river) without producing an explicit request for assistance or

information. Nonetheless, the teacher treats it as such by starting an explanation after

the 0.3 second pause in line 4. In the explanation (lines 5–11), the teacher refers to

a previous classroom activity and explicitly models the procedure with multiple other

examples of compound words. In line 12, the student just says ’oh ja’ (oh right), thereby

claiming a change in response to the previous action of the teacher, but not (yet)

demonstrating it in any way. The teacher responds with a request for confirmation (yes?

  1. 14), but without awaiting an answer. Instead, she proceeds with ‘so’ and repeats the

exercise under discussion while withholding the last item, i.e. the answer (Elicitation

Completion Device/ECD, Margutti 2006 or Designedly Incomplete Utterance/DIU, Koshik

2002). In doing so, she indicates a relationship between the student’s claim and the ability

to complete the exercise now (by means of ‘so’) and invites him to demonstrate his

understanding. Indeed, responding to the ECD/DIU and hence formulating an answer to

the exercise, the student now demonstrates his understanding. Again here, already at the

beginning of this demonstration the teacher starts turning away and walks away at the

end of the demonstration, treating the student’s demonstration as sufficient to close the

explanation interaction.

6.3. Orientation to a claim as being sufficient after a prior demonstration

Contrary to Extract 2, Extract 3 shows an explanation interaction coming to a close after

a student’s ‘oh ja’ (oh right), i.e. a claim rather than a demonstration. In this case, however,

the student has already demonstrated change earlier in the interaction. We found multiple

similar examples of this in our data, showing that teachers do not pursue demonstrations

when a demonstration has already been provided earlier, before the ‘oh’-prefaced

claim. The student’s demonstration is however followed by an extended explanation by

the teacher eliciting a claim. In these extended explanations, the teacher typically refers to

the general rule to be applied to the specific type of assignments discussed, rather than

further explaining this particular exercise.

1 STU: mevrouw u:hm &geef is toch het enige werkwoordelijk gezegde

miss uhm hand is the only verb phrase right

tch: &leans on STUs table—->

2 STU: (of) in de zin of- in deze zin (of eh)

(or) in the sentence or- in this sentence (or uh)

3 TCH: nou. kijk eens of er nog een stukjeh:

_

well just look whether there (is) another piece

4 (0.4)

5 TCH: en volgens &mij staat die zin zelfs @°op het& bord.

°

and I think that sentence is even on the board

tch: &looks at whiteboard—————&

stu: @looks at whiteboard—->

6 (0.7)

Extract 3. To Hand out (C/6_int.2505DL)

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In lines 1–2, the student produces a request for confirmation of her answer to the exercise,

while leaving room for alternative answers (‘or’, l. 2). The teacher encourages the student to

look at the sentence (l. 3) and then directs her attention to the whiteboard (l. 5), where this

sentence is presumably written down and parsed already. Looking at the whiteboard, the

student then produces an ‘oh’ and demonstrates her understanding by adding the preposition

‘out’ to her answer (l. 7). The teacher confirms this as the right answer and extends her

confirmation by providing the infinitive form of the verb: ‘to hand out’. Even though the

explanation could be complete at this point – as the student demonstrated to be able to

formulate the right answer – the teacher extends the explanation (l. 11–12). This serves as

a justification for the right answer as the teacher refers to a more general rule: a (finite) verb

phrase consists of all elements that (in Dutch) are written together as one word in the infinitive

form of the verb. This explanation is not only relevant for this particular exercise, but for all

other parsing assignments potentially. After an ‘okay’ by the student, the teacher requests

confirmation (‘do you see that’), answered by the student in line 17. The teacher however does

not await the student’s response, she expands her explanation once more further explicating

the general rule (l. 16). Only at the end of this expansion, she seems to consider the explanation

interaction to be complete as she stands up and walks away after the student’s claim of

understanding in line 18. Extracts like this one show us that teachers not only monitor their

students’ progression in the explanation of the exercise under discussion, but moreover

prepare them for individually completing similar exercises they may encounter next by

explicating the general rules even after students have demonstrated that their problem was

solved for this particular exercise.

An additional example of an explanation interaction coming to a close after a claim,

preceded by an earlier demonstration is displayed below. This extract is exceptional in our

7 STU: heh? (0.5) oh. geef uit,

huh oh hand out

8 (0.3)

9 TCH: jha:! uitgeven.

yes (to) hand out

10 (0.2)

11 TCH: .H het is @een werkwoord. wat je in twee stukjes kunt (0.3)

.H it is one verb which you can divide into two

stu: -–>@

12 verdelen.

parts

13 (0.3)

14 STU: o@ke.

okay.

stu: @sits up more straight–>

15 (0.4)

16 TCH: zie je dat?=[dus dat] zijn &sa:hmen &is dat het gezegde. H

do you see that so those are together that is the verb phrase H

17 STU: [(oh ja)]

oh right

tch: —->& &stands up straight-–>

18 STU: (°oja°)

o right

19 (0.5)@&(1.2)

tch: &walks away-–>>

stu: –>@leans forward and starts writing–>>

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1 ((STU standing at teacher’s table))

2 @ (3.7) @(2.0)

stu: @flips through book@

3 TCH: ja:,=je hebt een vraa[g. ]

yes you have a question

4 STU: [°ik] snap de (opdracht)

I don’t fully understand

5 niet @helemaal.°

the (exercise)

stu: @puts book down on tch’s desk and leans forward–>

6 .HH [@ °want j]e moet e:h (0.4) het

.HH because you have to uh the

7 TCH: [@(eh je moe-)]

uh you have to

stu: –>@stands slightly leaned over to table–>

8 STU: <werkwoord> in tegenwoordige tij[d° ]

verb in present tense

9 TCH: [nou]:,=je

well you

10 schrijft eerst,

first write

11 (0.2)

12 STU: °ja.°

yes

13 (.)

14 TCH: <IS> ut tegenwoordige tijd of verleden tijd.

is it present tense or past tense

15 (0.3)

16 TCH: dus .hh met een betraand gezicht, puntje puntje,

so .hh with a tear-stained face Irina dot dot

17 Irina gisteren naar de foto van alexander.=

at Alexander’s picture yesterday

18 =moet dat

should that (be)

19 (0.4)

20 STU: °verleden tijd.°

past tense

21 (0.3)

22 TCH: verleden tijd. ja.

past tense yes

23 .hh °en daar achter schrijf je dan het

.hh and behind that you then write the

24 werkwoord.=op de goe[ie man@ier.°]

verb in the right way

25 STU: [ oo:@h ] (.) oke.=

oh okay

stu: –>@stands upright–>

Extract 4. Past tense (J/20_int.4675DL)

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dataset, since this is the only example in which a student comes up to the teacher’s desk

with their request for assistance. In all the other extracts, it is the teacher visiting

a student’s desk and as such, being in control over the ending of the interaction (i.e. by

walking away from the student’s desk). Extract 4 will show that the teacher is not the only

one monitoring the interaction and determining when the explanation interaction can be

closed. In this extract, we see that the student also clearly orients to closing down the

interaction with both his body and words once the teacher seems to have produced

a complete explanation.

At the start of this extract, the student stands next to the teacher’s desk, flipping through the

pages of his book, and puts the book down on the teacher’s desk once invited to ask his

question (l. 2–5). Consequently, the student will have to pick up the book again and go back

to his own table when the explanation is completed. This is exactly what we see him orient

to when the teacher’s explanation is potentially complete in line 24. While producing an

‘oh’-prefaced claim (‘oh okay’, l. 25) he starts standing upright again (note that he already

demonstrated to be able to complete the exercise by providing an answer in line 20). When

the teacher then summarises her explanation of the exercise with, again, a reference to

a more general instruction to be applied to this specific type of assignment, rather than to

this particular exercise (just like in extract 3), he takes his book and starts walking away even

before the teacher has completed her turn (l. 26–28). In this way, this extract clearly shows

that students also orient to the closing of the explanation interaction once the explanation

seems to be complete and a demonstration has already been produced (and a claim hence

suffices here). The altered body posture in line 25 functions as a pre-closing element

projecting the end of the explanation interaction. The fact that the teacher nonetheless

continues with a concluding summary of the instructions for this (type of) exercise shows us

that student and teacher together negotiate the closing of their explanation interaction (just

like in extract 3) at the end of which one of both parties will walk away from the other’s desk.

  1. Discussion

The presented extracts have shown that a close analysis of the fragments containing an

‘oh’-prefaced turn following the teacher’s explanation provides more insight into how the

interactants organise one-to-one explanation interactions in relation to knowledge

26 TCH: =ja?=>dus je [zegt<] veetee streepje: (0.2) en

yes so you say pee tee (past tense) dash and

27 STU: [ja. ]

yes

28 TCH: dan: [@wat] het moet @zij[n.]

then what it should be

29 STU: [@ja ] [is] goe[d.]

yes all right

30 TCH: [ J]A?

yes

stu: –>@takes book—-@walks away–>>

31 STU: ja.

yes

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displays. The analysis reveals that the closing of the explanation interaction is negotiated

by both participants, verbally as well as bodily in relation to their displays of changes in

knowledge distribution. Additionally, the analysis has shown that teachers tend to move

beyond the exercise occasioning the explanation interaction. By referring to general rules

for parsing, for instance, teachers show to assist the students on a more general level as

well (see also Koole and Elbers 2014).

The close investigation of the explanation interactions in this paper has revealed more

insight into the process of conducting a conversation analytic study with a focus on

learning processes in education. Earlier, we described that one often starts with a general

research interest into a specific activity in education. Usually, this interest was the main

reason for collecting the data. Repeatedly looking at the data then results in more specific

research interests, followed by a close analysis of the data. This process of collecting,

transcribing, and iteratively analysing the data has been outlined in the foregoing and

reached its final stage in the results section of this paper. Hereby, the paper illustrates the

data-driven, qualitative approach of Conversation Analysis (CA).

By the close analysis of the turn-by-turn organisation of the interactions, CA highlights

the importance of the details that become visible by studying the video data and

transforming them into detailed transcripts. Although this method is considered to be

time consuming, we have shown in the results section that we could not have made the

empirical claims without a close investigation of the interactional details. It is in the

description of the close analyses in the results section of a CA paper that a reader should

get a grip on the real-time processes that participants themselves show an orientation to.

The study of sequential details of ‘oh’-prefaced turns contributes to earlier findings

revealing insights into one-to-one explanation interactions in education (such as

Breukelman et al. 2023; Koole 2010, 2012). By a close investigation of the ‘oh’-prefaced

turns as a particular practice for displaying change in response to the explanation

delivered in the preceding turn or turns, we have taken the emic participants’ perspective

as is commonplace in the CA tradition. Such an analysis enabled us as researchers to

understand what is happening from moment to moment in the classroom activity and

therefore to come close to the educational practices as they are experienced by teachers

and students while interacting.

By showing the analyses of the interactional organisation in the results section of the

paper, readers of a CA paper also get the opportunity to come close to the original data

and to check the analyses conducted by the researchers. This is different from papers

reporting statistical results on the basis of interactional data. For the reader, the actual

practices then become more abstracted codes that one cannot check, even when the

researchers of these papers have done ‘microanalytic’ coding from second to second (e.g.

van Braak et al. 2021). CA papers on the contrary show the second to second, moment by

moment, interactions as they happen in real time. This is also helpful in translating

findings to educational practice. We can immediately illustrate to practitioners what is

happening in interaction.

Nevertheless, one has to consider that CA papers typically only show representative

extracts of the complete data set. This enables the reader to check the analysis of the

presented extracts, but does not give them access to the entire collection (let alone the

video recordings), hence also missing the ability to double-check how representative the

selected excerpts actually are. A reader therefore still has to trust the analyses of the

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researchers who conducted the study. Their findings can be said to be validated by

a typical feature for CA: the findings get established by repeatedly looking at the data

and by working on the analyses with a team of researchers conducting data sessions and

discussing the patterns that occur in the data.

The analyses in the current study have shown that teachers as well as students are

oriented to the change-of-state token ‘oh’ as indicative of students’ learning processes.

Both parties treat ‘oh’-prefaced claims as insufficient for closing the explanation interaction

and a demonstration is pursued when the student has not provided one yet. Teachers

as well as students typically start walking away and seem to be satisfied with an ‘oh’-claim

when a demonstration has already been produced. Taking the participant perspective

that is central to CA research and hence basing our analyses on what the interactants

make visible to each other, we were able to uncover the prevalence of the orientation to,

and negotiation of, change in response to the previous actions for the organisation and

closing of the explanation interaction.

These outcomes align with the findings concerning students’ use of ‘oh’ in one-to-one

classroom interactions (Koole 2010, 2012) and add new sequential insights into explanation

interactions in relation to displays of knowledge. While Koole mainly focused on the

difference between free-standing ‘oh’s and ‘oh’-prefaced demonstrations (Koole 2010),

our study zooms in on ‘oh’-prefaced turns and explicitly relates these to (the organisation

  1. of) the activity, the learning processes and teacher practices involved. The relationship

between previous findings and our results illustrates another feature of validity in

a qualitative sense, as we reason by analogy, describing similarities and differences between

the found patterns in the collection with those in other contexts (e.g. Smaling 2009).

Comparing our results with another strand of CA papers in classroom interaction

research, we would like to underline that our insights did not elucidate changing participation

in classroom interaction and its relationship with learning which has been the

centre of attention in other CA studies (as for instance summarised by Gardner 2019;

Gosen and Koole 2017). There is a line of CA studies investigating longitudinal development

of learners by focusing on their changes in participation (e.g. Melander and

Sahlström 2009; Slotte-Lüttge, Pörn, and Sahlström 2013). More specifically, there is

a strand of research called CA-for-SLA, for second language acquisition, focusing on the

changes in participation that become visible in interactions of learners engaged in

learning a new language (for an overview see for instance Kunitz, Markee, and Sert

2021). In a similar vein, there is a trend in CA research illustrating how certain sequential

moves contribute to an increased student participation, which is expected to contribute

to their development (e.g. van Balen et al. 2022; Willemsen 2019; Willemsen et al. 2020).

Taking these perspectives into account was outside the scope of this paper, but these

kinds of research from a CA perspective are for instance described in overviews of CA and

educational research, such as Gosen and Koole (2017), Koole (2015) and Gardner (2019).

This paper serves to illustrate the method of CA from beginning to end. We

have sketched the advantages of the tools CA has developed to describe what is

happening in interactions on a turn-by-turn basis from a participant perspective to

get a better grip on the workings of classroom interactions. A possible downside of

the use of CA is that the analytical procedure is quite demanding for novice

researchers. First of all, conducting line-by-line transcription of video data is

time-consuming. In addition, the iterative phases in the analysis require processing

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time and ask for consultation of other researchers to ensure validity of the findings.

This is achieved by having regular data sessions with other CA researchers

and by presenting work in progress during conferences to receive feedback on the

analyses. This is of course engaging and relevant, but also requires time and an

available network of CA researchers.

Another disadvantage of CA might be that it is a method one has to acquire by

practicing. One can intensively study conversation analytic handbooks and research

articles or practice it by training, still the mastery of CA also means ‘learning by doing

it’. Especially moving from a general research interest to phenomena, to specific

research questions that may be answered by a detailed study of certain practices,

can be hard to achieve for a new researcher in CA. One needs to be able to reason by

analogy on the basis of experience and knowledge of other CA driven research. The

focus on ‘oh’-prefaced utterances for instance came about by encountering these in

the data, having knowledge of the previous literature on ‘oh’ as a change-of-state-

token. In this paper, this previous research is summarised before the results are

presented. However, while conducting the study, the analyses and the literature

research are often done in the form of an iterative process.

For these reasons, for someone new to the field the analytical steps may take time (in

collaboration with more experienced researchers) and effort. This specific contribution

showcasing CA as a method with all its steps involved aims to assist researchers with

a new interest in CA to get a better (first) grip on educational data from this detailed

perspective.

Once the analyses have been done, the next step in our conversation analytic procedure

would be to think about how these findings might find their way back into education.

Quite recently, there has been a development of a successful method to use

conversation analytic findings in training sessions with practitioners: the Conversation

Analytic Role play Method (CARM, Stokoe 2014). With this method, researchers and

practitioners come together for a line by line ‘analysis’ of the data studied by the

researchers. By showing just one line of a transcript accompanied by the video recordings,

practitioners are encouraged to reflect on what they would do next if they were in that

particular conversation. On the basis of this, interesting discussions may emerge about

the interactional organisation that is displayed in the selected fragments. This is proven to

contribute greatly to the practitioners’ awareness of their interactional behaviour. For this

particular study, it would be interesting to pause the video after an ‘oh’-prefaced utterance

and discuss with teachers how they would proceed after this. They would then

become aware of the orientation that we have found as analysts, and a next step would

be to discuss with them whether this is desirable or not. It is not up to us as analysts to

make judgements about this; it is something that practitioners themselves can evaluate

once they have become aware of certain interactional patterns.

Our close sequential analyses of interactional data in the classroom can therefore

contribute to awareness of processes in the classroom that would otherwise not have

been discovered. This takes as a starting point the sometimes overlooked but nonetheless

great importance of interaction in the process of learning (and teaching). It is in interaction

with the teacher and with peers that students display their learning processes.

Therefore, the investigation of change as it becomes visible in interaction is of crucial